Archive for the ‘web 2.0’ Category

google calendar

April 13, 2006

google has released google calendar

with a rich features list –
– search support
– ‘quick add’ which i first saw in 30boxes and instantly liked it
– invitation handling.
calendar sharing looks useful. a group of people can edit same calendar.
gmail integration gives it the unmatched advantage. but it isnt as cool as one in zimbra.
event publishing looks cool too.
– draging,resizing(steps of half hour) of event
– the most important feature of google calendar is going to be Calendar Data API (coming soon…)

i am in search of a good calendar from years, and was never satisfied with anything availabe. i have tried almost every calendar available. all sucked big time including one from yahoo. recently released kiko and 30boxes are good, but couldnt make me a customer. i guessed google will acquire one soon. sad for them, google has come up with its own. hopefully google competitors will need one soon and they might get lucky.

i used php icalendar so far. hope google calendar will change something.

Live.BarCampHyderabad

April 8, 2006

BarCampHyd

Highlights So Far …

BarCampHyd

Ramesh (Progress Software) defines Web 2.0 trying to get everybody on the same level. He discussed about Key Principle, Factors and Drivers of this. He also mentions the increase of information noise due to blogs and probably an efficient search engine can address this problem. He futher strengthened my view that web 2.0 is not just about AJAX and Rich UI but its about Business Logic and Rich User Experience and covered all the basics of Web 2.0.

jay pullur CEO pramati

Moving on from the Tech side to the Business side Jay Phullur (CEO Pramati) nicely defines Web 2.0 as a Read/Wrtie Web and talked about Business models which can/has made influence. They can be technology focused or Network effect focused. The basic question he posed was Why Web 2.0 companies not coming out of India? which leads us to a more basic question which participants asked. How to make money from Web 2.0 ideas?

rajan from advetta

Then, Rajan (Advetta) went ahead and took us for a drive in Economics, a move from n^2 to 2^n and the importance of attention. He started with a line "information abundance may result in scarcity of attention" which lead to Blog noise and tagging and Attention gathering. To me the presentation seemed pretty inspired by The Matrix (ofcourse, a techie).

Followed by was a nice rich presentation on Tangible User Interface by Sharad Singh Solanki (SAS). Couple of videos were really cool and involved a lot of innovative hardware. I still feel there is time when we will have those innovative hardwares to communicate with web and will be used in our day today lives. As of now lets see when a wireless enabled iPod is launched which will be able to download/stream/rate/suggest/share/review music on the fly without the middleman (as in computer).

Vishal Garg (IIITH) got an idea similar to that of Open Conference. He calls it Open Journal and how authors can make money from their articles and papers by eliminating the publisher who ends up making more money than anybody else in the chain.

Dr. kamal

Kamal Karlapalem (IIITH) discusses an idea of a MahaSystem (MeraSystem.com) which will eliminate the need of a desktop computer. Basically a thinClient frontend and Grid of servers as a backend which will take care of optimization, data management and information/knowledge extration. His idea was to shift OS from a personal computer to the web and leave the computer as a thin Client to just input and output data. I guess people have already thought a lot on this and there are lot many issues implementing it and making money from this.

Rajiv and Pavitar (Pramati) talks about Xforms. What as XForms, Why we need it, How they are implement and the benefit over basic HTML forms. Short, Geeky and Fast.

Prabodh (Oracle) made a wildcard walk-in and talked about the general stuff and took us for a very long Recap of basics of AJAX and the problems in moving existing Web 1.0 systems to Web 2.0. Some stuff which his company is doing … how Oracle was the first to implement AJAX in their systems and stuff like partial refresh. Request/Response is done by AJAX but he stressed Push, which i guess is already implemented and later on we saw a demo of Push technology from CORDYS. 

D Anandhakrishnan (CORDYS) gave a presentation and i must say it was indeed humorous specially the AJAX for his wife part. It was more to do with problems faced with DHTML, making web layouts and maintaining them. The main theme of his presentation revolved about how XForms can solve all the problems. Later he gave a demo of their XForm enterprise application development suite which runs on a browser. He thinks AJAX is rocket science and needs a lot of expertise for developers to make apps on it and a development platform something like Eclipse or Visual Studio is must. The funniest part was when somebody asked him, In what language is your suite written in? And his answer was: DHTML and CSS πŸ™‚

Then Kiran (Progress) is speaking about Eclipse plugins, DOM inspecter, Integrated browwser and debugger for javascript and AJAX applications.  

stardotstar blogging live

*.* in action and blogging live, conference still going on … and i am defenitely gonna be here for an hour more …. reason? free pizza's πŸ˜€

Sumeet from Yahoo

Now its Sumeet (Yahoo!) who is going deep into Y! UI design libraries. Shared a link developer.yahoo.com which probably most of us have already visited. The logic is simple, take open sourced UI libraries (Javascripts) from Yahoo! use them into your Web Interfaces and make them rich. To make the presentation (which just had one monolithic B/W web page) more intresting he is throwing in whtever new is going on @ Yahoo!, Avatar sharing page, Yahoo! widgets, or the new Yahoo Mail interface which is really good but looked much like Outlook and Kahuna (Hotmail beta).

He is also giving some Goodies (i guess a Yahoo! wallet and a pen) to all those asking genuine questions. Ranta got one for asking why his yahoo account got blocked. I didnt had time to ask even that. If not blogging then would have surely asked why they are so lagging in integrating all their stuff (search, messenger, mail, 360, Flickr, delicious) into one. M$ and Google have definitely taken a headstart into this. Even he is blogging live and can be read here.

And now its Sunder (dimdim) who seem to be going off track to the theme of Web 2.0 and talking a lot on his experiences with a Startup and Rentchecks πŸ˜‰

And with that we come to an end of a successfull Barcamp.  This was just the Gist of the unconference and much more was discussed and the Links will be provided to the slides as soon as they are uploaded on the Barcamp wiki.

Oh, i just forgot to mention the Pizza's …

Update:

HydTechBlog has a nice post on the same while Rajan one of the organizers and speakers shares his thoughts about the events and his own talkKunal blogs about the proceedings as bullets and his observations while CmdrBuzz tries to make another excuse of the low turnout of IIITians AGAIN at one more on Campus event.

Rajan's ppt on Economics of Web 2.0

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Barcamp Hyderabad & Web 2.0

April 4, 2006

2,665,738 results for the term "Web 2.0" by msn search.

236,633 blogs mentions Web 2.0 according to google.

a conference in November 06 where all biggies of WorldWideWeb seem to be taking part.

an entry on wikipedia

someguy posted his ideas in the form of an article which seemed much more like a book with around 10K words. Hoof … later i came to know that this guy is supposed to be a publisher and that too "The best publisher of computer books".

king of software hosts a 72 hour conference and talks about it with the king of computer books.

Paul Graham who helped me completing my FYP talks a lot about it.

manikchand semoz organized awards for the leaders (not on TV idiot and no performance by priyanka chopra :p) and the designers seem to be having a time with it.

king calls it Atlas, one which has nothing to with maps nor it shrugs. πŸ˜‰

camp (for which, on invited upon i replied "No Thank you, Only on occasions") is organized at a place, where i learnt the ABC of computers and now when i am going to participate, i just have one basic question.

What is Web 2.0?

so much is happening around me and i know equally less about it. 

probably its time for me to ask for some help from one of co-workers who recently had a brainwave and came to know about a new born technology AJAX and has been giving fundaes to a couple of my diaper-friends.

and after all the research for writing this post i now come on to a conclusion that its just about a new kind (version) of web interfaces which interact with the users in a little different way.

All the Hoopla around is just about making the web intelligent and to differentiate the older web interfaces with the new range and someone coined a name Web 2.0 for them. And people even say thats its a new platform and some even say its just about data and hence google will eventually rule this domain

Disclaimer: These are just my personal opinions and are neither totally correct nor wrong. There can be many different and contradicting opinions.

I personally feel that roles of web designers and developers will converge, the design will depend a lot on the system architecture and the system architecture will depend a lot on the way the users will interact. Basic thing which is common in most of the interfaces today which are considered Web 2.0 compliant is "customizability". Live.com or google's personalized homepage is a perfect example. Some also mention Wiki's and blogs into that category but i sincerely not.

Blogs, Wiki, link sharing portals and social networking sites are basically (or acidic-ally) just a form of content management servers, they are like email portals in where you can share your mails. That's it! You can call CMS as Web 2.0 as they marked a transition between static web-pages and Web 2.0.

Web 2.0 is more than just CMS, you just don't store some static data and get it back or share it with someone else. You can configure it such that it displays some non-static data according to your needs and RSS plays a very big role in achieving this.

as Haacked mentions

The foundations are quite simple. Web 2.0 is about:

  • User created content.
  • Using AJAX to make websites UI responsive
  • Providing simple Open APIs.
  • Harnessing collective intelligence
  • And so on…

If we compare all the web systems then we can easily categorize as …

version

properties

type

examples

Web 1.0    

static pages interfaces, basic html,  

any static web page where content and design used to be defined by the webmaster.

hotmail.com

Web 1.5

dynamic pages, user can modify content and share between other users. But still the content is static.

CMS, Discussion forums, Social netowkring sites, Link sharing portals, Blogs, Wiki.

orkut.com, blogger.com, wikipedia.org

Web 2.0

dynamic pages, content is not static, user can specify the kind/type of data displayed on his page.

personal home pages, content recommendation portals, RSS based.

live.com, technorati.com, last.fm, digg.com, flickr.com

There are word processing tools or on-line messengers which use AJAX technology and are termed as Web 2.0 systems or platforms but those are just pure interfaces and nothing intelligent about them. I will say that if there is a system which has messenger, word processing, file storing, link sharing, mail client, web publishing and media player all at one place and in a customized manner according to the user's preference, then that will definitely qualify the Web 2.0 certification.

some also terms anything which comes with a new UI and uses AJAX as Web 2.0, i question that, Web 2.0 is a super-set and a business logic whereas AJAX is just a technology. Probably some go by the definition that whatever is not old is new and the new is version++(2.0).

What i personally feel is a lack of clear understanding and a guideline which can define what qualifies as Web 2.0.

Hoof … Am i ready for the Barcamp now?

barcamphyderabad web 2.0 | digg this

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